Comments on: Consumer Unit guide to the 17th edition Wiring Regulations – 1 http://blog.sparksdirect.co.uk/consumer-unit-guide-to-the-17th-edition-wiring-regulations-1/ Reviews of the lights, dimmers, switches and sockets, electrical items, heating and ventilation, fire and security items on our site Mon, 15 Mar 2010 08:46:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: dazman http://blog.sparksdirect.co.uk/consumer-unit-guide-to-the-17th-edition-wiring-regulations-1/comment-page-1/#comment-930 dazman Tue, 04 Aug 2009 21:35:18 +0000 http://blog.sparksdirect.co.uk/?p=343#comment-930 <a href="#comment-923" rel="nofollow">@clive wilson</a> <blockquote cite="#commentbody-923"> <strong><a href="#comment-923" rel="nofollow">clive wilson</a> :</strong> Good article. I worked as a journalist thrown in to many parts of the electrical industry back in the ’70s (14th edition) and while commenting on the merits of fast breeder reactors, plasma technology, phase smoothing capacitors and so on – part of my brief was to follow BS comittees and IEC recommendations on lv (440 and below). It was quite a job to follow all the interested parties through their shenanigans whem it came to consolidating all the amendments to the 14th edition to a new edition. The politics (for which read shares in a particular company) behind moves in IEE regs, BS (yes), IEC and other bodies are not necessarily bad. Some are necessary to get anywhere. Now I am confronted with the the 17th edition and as I would like to retire to the country from my dubiously-wired Edwardian flat, I’m trying to catch up. From what I,ve read so far, I can do, or organise, the work but must have a sign-off from who? or what? </blockquote> hi im not sure how far into the 17th edition you have gone but from reading your story i would have concerns about you even starting any work yet. The reason for this is that part p of the new regs states somewhere that in order for you to recieve the required certification you will need to employ or use a suitably qualified and registered electrician. I would be guessing you will be installing a new consumer unit and this is no longer covered by a periodic test so is classed as a new installation, so you will need an electrician or electrical company that is part p certified and also either NIC, ECA, registered. the reason for this is it states that the person/company that are certifying the work shall be actively involved with all aspects of the installation from design through to certification. Hope this helps a little. @clive wilson

clive wilson :
Good article. I worked as a journalist thrown in to many parts of the electrical industry back in the ’70s (14th edition) and while commenting on the merits of fast breeder reactors, plasma technology, phase smoothing capacitors and so on – part of my brief was to follow BS comittees and IEC recommendations on lv (440 and below). It was quite a job to follow all the interested parties through their shenanigans whem it came to consolidating all the amendments to the 14th edition to a new edition. The politics (for which read shares in a particular company) behind moves in IEE regs, BS (yes), IEC and other bodies are not necessarily bad. Some are necessary to get anywhere. Now I am confronted with the the 17th edition and as I would like to retire to the country from my dubiously-wired Edwardian flat, I’m trying to catch up. From what I,ve read so far, I can do, or organise, the work but must have a sign-off from who? or what?

hi im not sure how far into the 17th edition you have gone but from reading your story i would have concerns about you even starting any work yet. The reason for this is that part p of the new regs states somewhere that in order for you to recieve the required certification you will need to employ or use a suitably qualified and registered electrician. I would be guessing you will be installing a new consumer unit and this is no longer covered by a periodic test so is classed as a new installation, so you will need an electrician or electrical company that is part p certified and also either NIC, ECA, registered. the reason for this is it states that the person/company that are certifying the work shall be actively involved with all aspects of the installation from design through to certification. Hope this helps a little.

]]> By: clive wilson http://blog.sparksdirect.co.uk/consumer-unit-guide-to-the-17th-edition-wiring-regulations-1/comment-page-1/#comment-923 clive wilson Tue, 04 Aug 2009 08:47:41 +0000 http://blog.sparksdirect.co.uk/?p=343#comment-923 Good article. I worked as a journalist thrown in to many parts of the electrical industry back in the '70s (14th edition) and while commenting on the merits of fast breeder reactors, plasma technology, phase smoothing capacitors and so on - part of my brief was to follow BS comittees and IEC recommendations on lv (440 and below). It was quite a job to follow all the interested parties through their shenanigans whem it came to consolidating all the amendments to the 14th edition to a new edition. The politics (for which read shares in a particular company) behind moves in IEE regs, BS (yes), IEC and other bodies are not necessarily bad. Some are necessary to get anywhere. Now I am confronted with the the 17th edition and as I would like to retire to the country from my dubiously-wired Edwardian flat, I'm trying to catch up. From what I,ve read so far, I can do, or organise, the work but must have a sign-off from who? or what? Good article. I worked as a journalist thrown in to many parts of the electrical industry back in the ’70s (14th edition) and while commenting on the merits of fast breeder reactors, plasma technology, phase smoothing capacitors and so on – part of my brief was to follow BS comittees and IEC recommendations on lv (440 and below). It was quite a job to follow all the interested parties through their shenanigans whem it came to consolidating all the amendments to the 14th edition to a new edition. The politics (for which read shares in a particular company) behind moves in IEE regs, BS (yes), IEC and other bodies are not necessarily bad. Some are necessary to get anywhere. Now I am confronted with the the 17th edition and as I would like to retire to the country from my dubiously-wired Edwardian flat, I’m trying to catch up. From what I,ve read so far, I can do, or organise, the work but must have a sign-off from who? or what?

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]]> By: Hager Consumer units - inside and out - features, benefits, installation, and flush fit | Blog Sparks Direct http://blog.sparksdirect.co.uk/consumer-unit-guide-to-the-17th-edition-wiring-regulations-1/comment-page-1/#comment-515 Hager Consumer units - inside and out - features, benefits, installation, and flush fit | Blog Sparks Direct Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:32:07 +0000 http://blog.sparksdirect.co.uk/?p=343#comment-515 [...] units from Hager here, and there is a substantial guide to the 17th edition consumer units - part 1 and part 2 - and yet there is still more to present concerning the consumer units: some features, [...] [...] units from Hager here, and there is a substantial guide to the 17th edition consumer units – part 1 and part 2 – and yet there is still more to present concerning the consumer units: some features, [...]

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